A member has brought it to the policy committee's attention that the policy committee rules of procedure as they stand require a 75% majority to pass options that do not qualify as core policy, regardless of whether the option in question relates to legislative/governmental policy or not. While this was not the policy committee's intention in writing the rules of procedure, since the vote to change the rules of procedure has not passed, these remain the rules we have, and we have been asked to follow them. A search of other pirate parties' Facebook pages has found no similar disclaimers, so we conclude that a Facebook disclaimer does not qualify as core policy, and would require a 75% majority over the no policy option to win the vote.The winning options were:
- Where, if anywhere, should the disclaimer be placed?:
[B] No policy, presence, placement and wording of any disclaimers to be decided by the folk who run the Facebook account - What, if anything, should the disclaimer say?:
[H] "The Pirate Party of New Zealand have some reservations about the privacy implications of using Facebook (make this a link to an article about privacy implications of using Facebook). We're here because it's a way to connect with people who otherwise might not find us, but now that we have your attention we would much prefer you engage with us on our website at http://pirateparty.org.nz/"
(however this result becomes redundant because of the previous result)
Votes cast: 3 votes
The unadjusted Condorcet (head-to-head) results can be summarised as follows:
Where, if anywhere, should the disclaimer be placed?:
- 1st: [E] Disclaimer in the current location (in the 'about' description)
(the above option beats every below option by at least 1 vote / 33%) - 2nd: [D] Disclaimer in a location less prominent than the 'about' description, to be decided by further discussion.
(every above option beats every below option by at least 1 vote / 33%) - 3rd: [C] No disclaimer, but we should post comment on facebook privacy concerns regularly so people are reminded of the issue.
(every above option beats every below option by at least 1 vote / 33%) - 4th: [B] No policy, presence, placement and wording of any disclaimers to be decided by the folk who run the Facebook account
(every above option beats the below option by at least 1 vote / 33%) - 5th: [A] Mandatory absence of a disclaimer
Options [E], [D], and [C] have been determined to be non-core policy, and do not achieve a 75% majority over [B], therefore are eliminated.
What, if anything, should the disclaimer say?:
- 1st=: [H] "The Pirate Party of New Zealand have some reservations about the privacy implications of using Facebook (make this a link to an article about privacy implications of using Facebook). We're here because it's a way to connect with people who otherwise might not find us, but now that we have your attention we would much prefer you engage with us on our website at http://pirateparty.org.nz/"
- 1st=: [F] "Some of the Pirate Party membership have concerns about Facebook and privacy as outlined here (link to an appropriate article about Facebook privacy concerns). Because of this we'd prefer you participate with us on our website rather than only on Facebook, so that all of our membership can feel comfortable taking part in the discussion."
- 1st=: [G] "Since you're here, there's a good chance you're pretty tech literate and privacy conscious. You probably already know that Facebook's default privacy settings aren't very private, and you probably already know that whatever your settings, the privacy of your posts ultimately depends on the discretion of Facebook's admins. But we thought we'd mention it anyway, just in case."
- 1st=: [I] "Please be aware that facebook is tracking all activities on facebook and pages showing their like button and use of facebook removes your rights under the privacy act 1993."
(every above option beats the below option by at least 1 votes / 33%) - 5th: [J] "We think you're all stupid for using facebook, but since you've already made your decision, we're willing to engage with you here."
Using Schulze as a tie breaker gives the winner as [H].
Many votes were posted late, following a Facebook group post mistakenly citing the closing date for voting as the 9th rather than the 7th. Counting late votes the results would have been:The winning options:
- Where, if anywhere, should the disclaimer be placed?:
[B] No policy, presence, placement and wording of any disclaimers to be decided by the folk who run the Facebook account - What, if anything, should the disclaimer say?
tied
[G] "Since you're here, there's a good chance you're pretty tech literate and privacy conscious. You probably already know that Facebook's default privacy settings aren't very private, and you probably already know that whatever your settings, the privacy of your posts ultimately depends on the discretion of Facebook's admins. But we thought we'd mention it anyway, just in case."
[H]"The Pirate Party of New Zealand have some reservations about the privacy implications of using Facebook (make this a link to an article about privacy implications of using Facebook). We're here because it's a way to connect with people who otherwise might not find us, but now that we have your attention we would much prefer you engage with us on our website at http://pirateparty.org.nz/"
(however this result becomes redundant because of the previous result)
Votes cast: 9 votes
Where, if anywhere, should the disclaimer be placed?:
- 1st=: [B] No policy, presence, placement and wording of any disclaimers to be decided by the folk who run the Facebook account
- 1st=: [C] No disclaimer, but we should post comment on facebook privacy concerns regularly so people are reminded of the issue.
(every above option beats every below option by at least 1 votes / 11%) - 3rd: [A] Mandatory absence of a disclaimer
(every above option beats every below option by at least 1 votes / 11%) - 4th=: [D] Disclaimer in a location less prominent than the 'about' description, to be decided by further discussion.
- 4th=: [E] Disclaimer in the current location (in the 'about' description)
[W] No confidence in the vote (1 vote / 11%)
Option [C] has been determined to be non-core policy, and does not achieve a 75% majority over [B], therefore is eliminated.
What, if anything, should the disclaimer say?:
- 1st=: [G] "Since you're here, there's a good chance you're pretty tech literate and privacy conscious. You probably already know that Facebook's default privacy settings aren't very private, and you probably already know that whatever your settings, the privacy of your posts ultimately depends on the discretion of Facebook's admins. But we thought we'd mention it anyway, just in case."
- 1st=: [H] "The Pirate Party of New Zealand have some reservations about the privacy implications of using Facebook (make this a link to an article about privacy implications of using Facebook). We're here because it's a way to connect with people who otherwise might not find us, but now that we have your attention we would much prefer you engage with us on our website at http://pirateparty.org.nz/"
(every above option beats every below option by at least 1 votes / 11%) - 3rd: [F] "Some of the Pirate Party membership have concerns about Facebook and privacy as outlined here (link to an appropriate article about Facebook privacy concerns). Because of this we'd prefer you participate with us on our website rather than only on Facebook, so that all of our membership can feel comfortable taking part in the discussion."
(every above option beats every below option by at least 4 votes / 44%) - 4th: [I] "Please be aware that facebook is tracking all activities on facebook and pages showing their like button and use of facebook removes your rights under the privacy act 1993."
(every above option beats the below option by at least 2 votes / 22%) - 5th: [J] "We think you're all stupid for using facebook, but since you've already made your decision, we're willing to engage with you here."
[W] No confidence in the vote (2 votes / 22%)
Schulze doesn't break the tie.
