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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:45 pm 

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Yes, we can't let the issue of personal taste, be it appalling or otherwise, be part of the discussion. That would be a slippery slope indeed...


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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 2:58 pm 
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james g wrote:
Is that supposed to be a justification for restricting people's liberty with copyright law?
How does copyright on someone else's work infringe on your liberty? Especially when you can enjoy the same protection for your own work?


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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:57 pm 
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cybertao wrote:
james g wrote:
Is that supposed to be a justification for restricting people's liberty with copyright law?
How does copyright on someone else's work infringe on your liberty? Especially when you can enjoy the same protection for your own work?


Because of the expense of enforcing one's own copyright it is only the rich and powerful that can hope to successfully defend their works. If a large company uses my work then I must expect to spend a lot of money in taking them to court where the best lawyers will be with the opposing party.

Also if I am unjustly accused of breaking copyright I can expect to spend a fortune defending myself.

The system is stacked in favour of the big boys.

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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:00 pm 

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cybertao wrote:
How does copyright on someone else's work infringe on your liberty? Especially when you can enjoy the same protection for your own work?
Check the PPNZ Principles/Philosophy wiki page (linked), and the second post in this thread (linked). Also, note that if you're suggesting that an author owns all the copies of their work, then you're suggesting that they own bits of your brain.


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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
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Steve Wozniak sticks up for MegaUpload and Kim DotCom:
https://mashable.com/2012/06/27/wozniak-dotcom/

An excellent comment on the article hits the nail on the head:
>> Copyright breach is not theft, its a civil licensing issue, not a criminal offense. This is not the way for any country to behave itself internationally. Shameful abuse of power for purely vested corporate interests. There must be another way to curb piracy. Corporations and governments are required to act within the law and morality they expect of others. <<

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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 10:14 am 
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james g wrote:
cybertao wrote:
How does copyright on someone else's work infringe on your liberty? Especially when you can enjoy the same protection for your own work?
Check the PPNZ Principles/Philosophy wiki page (linked), and the second post in this thread (linked). Also, note that if you're suggesting that an author owns all the copies of their work, then you're suggesting that they own bits of your brain.


I think the MAFIAA already own bits of Cybertao's brain ...


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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
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As a free thinking individual with no affiliation to the 'MAFIAA', no. No one has ownership rights to my brain or thoughts. Equating movies, games, music, art, and literature to being nothing but thought patterns demonstrates a lack critical of thinking on your part.


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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
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cybertao wrote:
As a free thinking individual with no affiliation to the 'MAFIAA', no. No one has ownership rights to my brain or thoughts. Equating movies, games, music, art, and literature to being nothing but thought patterns demonstrates a lack critical of thinking on your part.



a lack critical of thinking you say? Sorry, I didn't realise I was arguing with Yoda.


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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
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cybertao wrote:
As a free thinking individual with no affiliation to the 'MAFIAA', no. No one has ownership rights to my brain or thoughts. Equating movies, games, music, art, and literature to being nothing but thought patterns demonstrates a lack critical of thinking on your part.


Movies, games, music, art and literature can only result from thought patterns, which indicates that you don't understand basic psychology, or even simple logic.
You are hardly are free thinking individual if you have difficulty with logical thought.


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 Post subject: Re: Mechanism for economic reward of artists without copyrig
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That movies, games, music, art, and literature all come from thought has no bearing on the final product; the application of time, effort, and resources. Bad ideas can make money when pushed through while good ones can be forgotten in a moment.
An ebook or picture might only take moments to effortlessly download, but may have taken a lifetime for someone to obtain the skills and knowledge used. Lifetimes for collaborative projects. Ease of copying does not excuse ignoring what went into creating the original and control of how it can be used.


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